Tuesday, 29 May 2012


Debunking more conspiracy theorists.

I used to believe that Zaid Hamid and his boys were at the pinnacle of conspiracy mongering. It was until I saw Terminal X, a website dedicated to similar conspiracy mongering and I did some background check on one of their stories, named,
 “Report: Israel's Al Qaeda exposes itself by "confirming" CIA's hoax at Abbottabad” by Zaki Khalid. The report itself can be seen at their page, I have simple provided the biographies of their “reliable sources”. These idiots want to “disprove” stuff by using data that is absurd and its validity is suspicious, they clutch at straws to somehow justify their own agendas. 
 I have always emphasized that while conspiracy theories abound on the Internet, a half-decent effort to find a different narrative on the Internet than the one being peddled, can give you a much better picture regarding the event. 

1. They start by quoting Steve Pieczenik who, surprise surprise, is a critically acclaimed author of psycho-political thrillers.

2. A mention of “United Jerusalem Foundation” has also been made in the post. The name says it all. Dubious.  
http://www.unitedjerusalem.org/index2.asp?id=170047&Date=10/27/2002

3. The post also mentions Pierre-Henri Bunel who  is a former French artillery and intelligence officer, later working in construction and as a writer on radical Islam and the Serbian War.

At the end of 1998, when a member of the French delegation to NATO's military committee at the headquarters in Brussels, he was accused of treason between July and October 1998 for passing documents to Serbian colonel Jovan Milanovic. These documents indicated the future strikes in Serbia during the Kosovo Conflict. While newspapers alleged a traditional pro-Serb bias in the French military, he claimed to be acting under orders of French intelligence services with the object of convincing the skeptical Serb government that the NATO threat of bombing was real. On 15 December 2001 he was condemned by a military tribunal, demoted in rank and sentenced to five years in prison. Three years were suspended, he was freed from La Santé Prison in the Spring of 2002.



4. The assertion that Tim osman=OBL is totally false, see how
(http://www.911myths.com/html/tim_osman_was_bin_ladin_.html)

Lets talk about Ted Gunderson and Michael Riconosciuto, the two US representatives who were apparently at this meeting.

(Spoiler Alert: One of them is mentally sick while the other is a drug addict.!!!!)



Gunderson at first appears a good witness, being a former “Senior Special Agent-in-Charge” in Los Angeles up to his retirement in 1979. However, all is not necessarily as it seems. Check out his web site, (www.tedgunderson.com) , and you’ll find articles on satanism, “sexual child abuse - elite involvement”, “plans for civilian internment”, and more. We’ve no problem with anyone expressing their views, but Gunderson wants to cash in, too: the most interesting claims here (“TERRORISTS' ACTIVITIES: ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE FURNISHED TO THE FBI 6 MONTHS PRIOR TO 9-11!”) are only available to those willing to pay out $10 to $25 for his reports (http://www.tedgunderson.com/Products-Reports.htm).



Further, Gunderson appears to have an uncertain reputation, even amongst the conspiracy community.



Was Gunderson was one of the top FBI COINTELPRO supervisors during the wipe out so-called dissidents in the 60's and 70's?  From Gunderson's position in New Haven, Philadelphia and Los Angeles, he had means, motive and opportunity to participate in COINTELPRO. Mr. Gunderson, what were you doing for J. Edgar Hoover in the 60's and 70's?



See (www.stewwebb.com/Ted%20Gunderson.html) for more.



What you will discover at the site is Gunderson’s own account of the meeting (much more at the link):



Subsequently, Gunderson arranged a meeting in the spring of 1986 at the Hilton Hotel on Ventura Boulevard in Sherman Oaks, Calif., between himself, Riconosciuto, Ralph Olberg, who covertly represented the State Department at the meeting and served on its Middle East desk, and a man identified as “Tim Osman.”



As Gunderson would discover only last year, “Osman” was bin Laden, dressed in ordinary casual Western attire and traveling on a Turkish passport.



Gunderson has also since found that there is a real Osman, who is a Turkish official.

(http://www.tedgunderson.com/Articles/US%20Armed%20and%20Promoted%20Terrorist.htm)



Even if there was a meeting, then, how can we be sure this Osman was bin Ladin?



Perhaps we can learn more from the other participant in the meeting, Michael Riconosciuto. Or perhaps not... The primary article from his point of view appears to be “When Osama Bin Laden was Tim Osman”, and it contains no more hard evidence than you’ll find anywhere else (but don’t take our word for that -- follow the link and find out for yourself).



Riconosciuto’s credibility isn’t enhanced by the fact that he’s been locked up in prison since 1991, after being found guilty of drug offences (charges the above article says were “trumped up”, without offering any support for that), but that’s not our only problem with him. Here’s a timeline detailing some of the claims surrounding Riconosciuto that have been made over the years.



1960's: Peripheral contact with JFK assassination suspects

At the age of 12, a young science genius named Michael Riconosciuto was  building listening devices for the detective agency of Guy Banister in New Orleans. As a teenager, he had his own laboratory, and was doing  cancer research, as Judyth Baker was also doing at the time in Florida.  David Ferrie later mentioned to her that they had been expecting a young  cancer researcher on the scene in May 1963, and assumed Judyth Baker was  the person they were expecting. It may have been Michael Riconosciuto  instead, and Judyth may have fallen into the situation by chance, showing up in New Orleans two weeks before Michael did.

(http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/1151609bc6be315b/ee8030d3292386da?lnk=st&q=%22Michael+Riconosciuto%22&rnum=1&hl=en#ee8030d3292386da)



That group of people can be traced directly back to the JFK assassination through Garrison's primary grand jury witness, Fred Lee Crisman (AKA Jon Gold). Look for Gold's book [out of print and hard to find] "Murder of a City - Tacoma" where he discusses being called to Garrison's grand jury. Gold also speaks of the genius of Michael Riconosciuto, then a 13 year old electronic wiz, busy tapping the phones of the police and sheriffs' departments because law enforcement was interrupting his father, Marshall's drug business.



1973: Accused of links to assassination of Chilean leader Salvador Allende

Michael has often described himself to me as a "chicken" to the CIA's perverted "chicken hawks". As a VERY young man he accompanied "Dr." John Philip Nichols to Chile to assist in the assassination of Allende.



1980: Involved with delaying the release of the US hostages in Iran:

On May 18, 1990, Riconosciuto had called the Hamiltons and informed them that the Inslaw case was connected to the October Surprise affair. Riconosciuto claimed that he and Earl Brian had traveled to Iran in 1980 and paid $40 million to Iranian officials to persuade them NOT to release the hostages before the presidential election in which Reagan became president of the United States.

(http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/5.htm)



Early 1980's: "In the early 1980s Michael also served as the Director of Research for a joint venture between the Wackenhut Corporation of Coral Gables, Florida, and the Cabazon Band of Indians in Indio, California"

(http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm)



1980's: has knowledge of bio-warfare research

According to Riconosciuto, the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) was in charge of the classified contracts for biological warfare research.

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm



1980's: Invents the a-neutronic bomb

Riconosciuto's talents were much in demand. He had created the a-neutronic bomb (or "Electro-Hydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device"), which sank the ground level of the Nevada test site by 30 feet when a prototype was tested. Samuel Cohen, the inventor of the neutron bomb, said of Riconosciuto: "I've spoken to Michael Riconosciuto (the inventor of the a-neutronic bomb) and he's an extraordinarily bright guy. I also have a hunch, which I can't prove, that they both (Riconosciuto and Lavos, his partner) indirectly work for the CIA."

(http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm)



Another possible weapon candidate soon surfaced: the "A-Neutronic" bomb. In this scenario, a mad criminal scientist (the infamous Michael Riconosciuto, currently serving time in a US prison), developed for the US Government a new super-weapon that involved blowing a cloud of chemicals into the air, charging the cloud with a large excess of electro static energy by means of a small rocket-carried "wire", and then detonating the resultant "fuel-air" mix to create a small nuclear-type explosion.

(http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.satanism/browse_thread/thread/e63b5771fa3a9265/d08ef92951b35ba1?lnk=st&q=%22Michael+Riconosciuto%22&rnum=131&hl=en#d08ef92951b35ba1)



1980's: has "connections with the Chinese industrial and military group Norinco"

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm



1983-84: Modifies PROMIS software for the Department of Justice to install a "back door"

http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/5.htm



Spring 1986: meets bin Ladin as a "representative of the mujahadeen, the Afghan fighters resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan"

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm



March 1991: knowledge of CIA funds and financial scandals

[Riconosciuto] said he was also responsible for the manner in which caused the interdiction of funds from the sale of Red Chinese gold and the manner in which large sums of CIA funds were secreted and knowledge of where those funds are located.



"The information available on my computer equipment would also tend to prove and show that the above described treasonous deals are related to the ongoing international scandals involving the Bank of Credit and Commerce International and the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro and that crucial features of said deals are centered in Chicago and involve the courts and prosecutors in Chicago," he stated.

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=1366



1991: forces a "professional hit man" to confess to his crimes:



Nichols and Riconosciuto had forced Marowitz to confess to his crime by hanging him upside down in front of the airplane propellar.



"Riconosciuto recalled, " ... So he [Marowitz] starts talking ... and Bob goes out of the room like this: `Oh my God, I don't want to hear anymore,' covering his ears. This Marowitz starts confessing to every hit he's ever done, including the Dorfman killings in Chicago. ... I mean, all hell breaks loose. All of a sudden Ted has found the torpedo in the Dorfman killings ..." After the "hanging" incident, Marowitz fled to Israel."



"The transcript was taken from Riconosciuto's first (taperecorded) meeting with Alan Boyak on May 5, 1991 at the attorney visiting room of the Tacoma, Washington house of incarceration....."



1991: Jailed

One week after giving an affidavit to Inslaw regarding the PROMIS software in 1991, Riconosciuto was arrested on trumped-up drug charges.

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm



August 11 1991

Believes ""AIDS" was created in the U.S. bio-warfare labs"

(http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vmessaymr3,17,00.htm)


July 1998: Knows of embassy bombings in advance, despite being locked up in jail



Thirty-four days before the East African embassy bombings of August 7, 1998, Riconosciuto notified the FBI in Miami that the bombings were going to take place.

(http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm)



2001: Has developed technology to remove oil dependency

Some powerful people may have good reason to want to keep Michael where he is.

Michael has developed technology which will revolutionize energy and make current polluting oil dependency obsolete. This technology will survive, no matter what happens to Michael, but it is a horror to think that this man is being repaid for his brilliance and patriotism by a 30 year jail sentence.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.chaos/browse_thread/thread/38917fc3d26608e1/d90c2c5a7642f10c?lnk=st&rnum=10&hl=en#d90c2c5a7642f10c



2001: Maintains Mujahadeen contacts:

"In the 1980s Michael Riconosciuto was involved in negotiations with the Mujahadeen on behalf of the US government. The negotiations were for arms and $600+ million per year in aid to assist in the war against the Soviets. Michael was encouraged to make his own contacts within the Mujahadeen network. After all these years, he still maintains his contacts"

(http://web.archive.org/web/20011224074730/http://www.mindgallery.com/hiddenroom/wizard/)



Most of these reports are second-hand, so we can’t be sure that Riconosciuto was behind every claim here. However, if only half of these stories originated with him then it would be enough to make us sceptical of what he’s saying, not least because the Osman story didn’t materialise until after September 11. Why not? bin Ladin had been in the press for years, so why not mention it earlier? Are we supposed to believe that he knew of the 1998 Embassy attacks, but then forgot to mention the US connection to bin Ladin, the supposed culprit? And if Riconosciuto didn’t know Osman was bin Ladin at the time, then how can we be sure he was now?



We’re not the only people who are sceptical of Riconosciuto. Here’s what Chip Berlet wrote back in the 1990’s:



Another oft-cited source in the October Surprise story was Michael Riconosciuto, who provided many tantalizing leads to investigative reporter Danny Casolaro before the free-lancer's death, which was ruled a suicide (see "The Octopus File," CJR, November/December 1991). Riconosciuto claimed to have specialized knowledge in computer science and software design, the kind of knowledge that, he said, made him useful to intelligence operatives. Casolaro was looking into the alleged theft by the Justice department of a privately owned software program called Promis. Riconosciuto offered an explanation: he told Casolaro that someone in the Justice department had given the software to American intelligence operatives for resale to intelligence agencies in Canada and abroad. One form of payment, he told the journalist, was the orchestration of the release of the American hostages being held in Iran.

Riconosciuto went on to weave a tale involving the Cabazon Indian reservation in southern California, purportedly the site of a supersecret research and testing base for weapons of interest to intelligence operatives. Casolaro began to see the reservation as part of a globe-spanning entity of untold power, which he called The Octopus.



Jerry Uhrhammer of the Tacoma, Washington, "Morning News Tribune" was the only reporter to cover Riconosciuto's three-week-long drug trial, held in Tacoma in April 1991. In the July/August 1992 "IRE Journal", Uhrhammer wrote:



"Any reporter who checked the court file prior to Riconosciuto's trial could have found documents that offered a psychiatric explanation for [his] conspiracy tales. Psychiatrists who examined him in 1972, prior to his first drug conviction, portrayed him as a mentally unstable person who had trouble discerning between fact and fiction."

Uhrhammer added:

"I have been dismayed and appalled by some articles in which Riconosciuto is quoted as a primary source, if not sole source, in support of some conspiracy theory, but without any warning to the reader that his credibility is suspect or nonexistent."



We’re uncertain about the witnesses to this meeting, then. The only document purporting to show that “Tim Osman” was bin Ladin is unsourced, as far as we can see (email if you know exactly where it came from). And even if we take the story as literally true, it doesn’t offer strong support for the common “bin Ladin was trained by/ funded by the CIA”. claims. In fact Gunderson’s account has him picked to meet Osman exactly because he didn’t work for a Government agency any more, therefore this story could be used to show there weren’t strong links between bin Ladin and the CIA at this time.



Given these issues, it’s hard to see how the Osman story can tell us very much on its own. More evidence is essential before we can begin to form a reliable picture about what, if anything, this means.




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